Review: Osho on Bhagavad Gita, by Neeraj Korde
“Rajneesh” Chandra Mohan Jain, aka Osho, was one of the most influential spiritual personalities of the 20th century. Some consider him to be enlightened and some a charlatan, but one thing is for sure, Osho was unique. He was undeniably a great orator and, with a background in teaching philosophy, a great scholar. His unconventional nuggets of wisdom may appeal or repel listeners but they sure do shake you up. I have been listening to his discourses on the Bhagavad Gita for a while and I want to share some of my thoughts with you.
There is a lot of Osho literature available on the internet. This includes writings, discourses, and videos. Osho’s lectures on the Bhagavad Gita constitute one of his more popular works. Osho speaks in chaste Hindi which in today’s world is a rare commodity in itself. His style of speaking is pregnant with pauses which lends it an air of gravity. The discourses are usually 45-60 minutes long, during which Osho digs deep into a few shlokas, coming up with his unique brand of wisdom.
Osho, the word dissector
He spends quite some time explaining the meaning of a single word and why Krishna chose to use that particular word. Often his insight is deep and extraordinary, bringing out a hidden meaning that is hard to guess yet feels sensible. The Gita seems to be full of esoteric and illogical statements, but Osho takes his time delineating each phrase word-by-word and creating the landscape of his perspective. An underlying current throughout his discourses is the assertion that words in our languages are just inadequate to express the divine. Osho believes this is because the languages have evolved to express the ego. He points out that the reason Gita sounds so esoteric is because of the way human languages have evolved and the subtle ways language effects our thinking and behavior.
Although born a Jain, Osho draws from all spiritual traditions while explaining the Gita. He extensively quotes anecdotes from the lives of Buddha, Mahavir, Christ, Vivekanand, Mansoor, Meera, Mohammed, etc., trying to highlight the unifying message underlying the different actions taken by these people. The list given above is a mere sampling; Osho draws from an eclectic bunch ranging from Zen monks to Sufi fakirs. Coming from a strong background in philosophy he does not shy away from comparing the works of modern philosophers like Sigmund Frued, Friedrich Neitzche, Carl Jung, Einstein, and so on with those of the ancient seers. The result is a very rounded, multifaceted interpretation of Geeta, a thorough comparison of Eastern and Western thought.
Throughout the discourses Osho rebukes organized religion. His dislike for the church, priest, dogma, and blind following of rituals is expressed in all his talks and writings. He encourages the listener to put it in proper perspective and concentrate on changing one’s actions instead of getting stuck with rituals. In one instance he compares them to signboards and goads the listener to read the signboard and move to the real destination rather than thinking of the signboard as the destination.
Osho’s interpretation of the Gita stands out for many qualities. He creates a multifaceted analysis of Gita, drawing from all sources—philosophy, scriptures, biographies and his own experience. The shlokas of the Gita are often abstract, mysterious and sometimes downright contradictory. In such cases the listener will definitely appreciate Osho’s deep and precise insight in explaining why Krishna said it this way. He has the skill of explaining apparently impossible shlokas in layman’s terms, using simple analogies. He often compares the subjects to modern social problems. This is where at times he digresses. Even though the digressions are interesting they sometimes get a bit too long. Though usually serious he is at times encouraging, soothing, poetic, mesmerizing and confrontational. But he is always soft-spoken, never too loud. There was an incidence when some people created trouble during his discourse. But Osho held his calm and the next day actually used that incident to bring in some humor. Osho’s discourses on the Gita are something every Osho fan or Gita fan will love listening to. You can find them at http://www.esnips.com/web/shikshaaurdharma
Neeraj Korde did his Masters from University of Michigan and now is a software engineer based in Seattle, Washington. His interests include practicing yoga. He can be reached at nkorde@gmail.com.
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September 17th, 2008 22:21
Dear Mr. Korde,
Are you talking on Gita or praising Osho? Your article is highlighting a man who was more than the womanizer and a sort of person called in our language a PATH BHRASHT. I have seen him when he was a professor in Sagar University and in later years his works I had opportunity to go through but his thoughts about Krishna are more as if as a humanbeing is talking and he had praised the Astavakr Geeta than Shrimad Bhagwadgita. The Jains highlight the Shringar Shaily of Leela of the Lord than His practical philosophies on Karmayoga and Adhyatmagyan. If you happen to read Prabhupada’s Geeta as it is and then read Gita of other authors and compare you will yourself understand how wrongly some of the verses have been interpretted.
To have worldly knowledge and to practice it are two different poles. I would like to quote Swami Shivananda of Rishikesh who wrote in advance more than 60 years ago I happen to visit his ashram in Rishikesh ,about all those modern swamis and acharyas & Lady sanyasins…………….
“VEDANTA is today a much abused term. All sorts of vanity, hypocrisy and self-conceit have been masquerading in its name. It has become the fashion of the day to pass for a Vedantin as it is then convenient to give up all sorts of responsibilities, rituals and restrictions of the Varnashrama Dharma and enables one to lead a happy-go-lucky life of ease, lethargy and inertia. The Punjab is full of dry, lip-Vedantins. Punjabi women have also taken to Vedanta and they take great pride in calling themselves Vedantins, whether or not they understand the philosophy, whether or not they do any practice. All retired officers who have not done any selfless service or any Sadhana or worship or charity take to Vedanta as a sort of fancy.”
(Swami Shivananda was a Doctor in Burma during British Raj in India and became a Sanyasi. Did Tapasya at Muni ki Reti in Rishikesh and his Ashram produced Yogis like BKS Iyengar who has now 2000 yogic centers throughout the world and many other Sanyasis later all the” Chalantru Philntaru “sanyasis from the west had one or the other time come to visit Shivananda Ashram. Swami Shivananda further eulogizes:-
“Thus Vedanta has become a very comfortable philosophy, because one can do whatever he chooses and eat whatever he likes. Licentiousness is mistaken for a life of expansion. If a man can eat anything in any hotel in any part of the world, if he can move socially with any man or woman, that does not mean, he is a Vedantin. There is much tall talk of Vedanta nowadays. There is idle Vedantic gossiping. But there is no practical Vedanta. Nobody wants to do any real solid Vedantic Sadhana. Man feels ashamed to call himself a Bhakta, but he takes great pride in calling himself a Yogi or a Vedantin, because he foolishly imagines he will be respected by the public. Many ignorant Vedantins have mistaken the body for Brahman and hence there is corruption amongst the so-called loose Vedantins. This is not only lamentable but also highly deplorable.”
I wish to add in the thoughts of great Sanyasi that the commercialization has overtaken Adhyatma that is why we only see the bright side of the person and forget the Truth. It is just like the packaging industry has overtaken the real contents of the thing presented.
The list of various modern swamis, or so called Sanysis and saints is long….
One of them was Acharya Rajnish who declared himself as Bhagwan Rajnish and then a Japanese name as ‘OSHO’. I agree that he was very well read.But his views and sayings on contradictions in Geeta and depiction on Krishna is lamentable and deplorable. He confuses more than he explains.
Shrimadbhagvadgita is summarised form of Vedas that is why it is also known as Geetopnishada. The Upnishadas are that part of Vedas wich highlight the Sanatan Hindu philosophy of our Dharma ( please note that religion word is being wrongly used in place of the Dharma- a wrong translation because English has no substitute for Dharma) Every chapter of Geeta is focused on a Yoga. The entire philosophy revolves around a Central Figure that is the creator controller and ahhilator or recycler which makes Hinduism as Monotheistic inspite of the fact that the administration of JAGAT (the Universe) is controlled by Lord Vishnu and when the same cosmic energy works as the created we call him Lord Brahma and ultimate for a new cycle of the Universe we have the annihilator or recycler Lord Shiva. They all are one and the same. The Supreme is Krishna who has inifinte names, eternal, almighty loves the right doers Bhaktas that is why he is an apostle of love.
Time to time he incarnates to establish the natural laws.
Please excuse me if I had used some harsh words or hurted any body whose mind is brainwashed by reading one type of persons views only.
Pandit Vats at San Lorenzo California.
November 18th, 2008 03:48
I have read geeta darshan by osho.I read it accidently. He explain every verse in detail. I don’t know whether osho was fake gure or real guru but one thing is sure that he had brilliant mind. I attracted towards geeta when I read osho book on geeta . I have also read Geeta as it is after that. Both prabhupad and osho has explained geeta in a very unique way. But I have a great respect for osho because just because of him my interest to know krishna is increased.
December 14th, 2008 15:52
Mr.Ravinder Nath Watts I think ur an fanatic u don’t want to understand the right geeta. Osho is not an brainwasher. Yes u can explain an ancient texts as per your experience. Prabhupada explain geeta as like a Hindu who want to interpret Krishna in an Hindu way of thinking. On the other hand OSHO is not trying to give an ultimatum on geeta, he’s just explaining his own experience. He uses geeta as tool. Its not an philosophical sermon. His speeches on geeta will transform your inner being which is far more important than the outer circles…
January 28th, 2009 09:37
Vatts ji, Velmurugan ji,Sanjeev ji,
Osho’s Gita Dharshan is a masterpiece. I have been doing Gita Parayana for nine years and only lately found Gita Dharshan. I believe it was Osho who has brought out the totality of Krishna out of the Gita than anyone else- even Swamy Ramsukhdasji Maharaj, whose commentary ‘Sadhak Sanjeevani” I rever. Though comparisons are not suitable, I see Osho fill some critical areas in my mind about the import of Gita.
1. Osho calls Krishna as Bhagavan (at least in that work. But later he was saying God did not matter to him)
2. Osho’s understanding of sloka 2/16
nasato vidyate bhaavo , naabhaavo vidyate sata:|
ubhayorapi drushto(a)antha: tvanayos tattva darshibhi:||
is perhaps unique and rare. His definitions of sat and asat are gems.
Personally, To me, Krishna is everything. But, a Gnana Yogi like Osho did great service to a Bhakta like me. I have just gone through ch 1 and part of Ch 2 (in Tamil) and every page stuns me.
But, I can understand vatts ji’s aversion. Osho has a habit of shocking others. As he says ” My job is not consoling people but to disturb them. For, they have lost the ability to think for centuries. My disturbing will wake them up”
I think that every Hindu must read or hear Osho’s Gita.
Pranams
Venkat
March 6th, 2009 14:23
Mr.Watts only a man who has experienced truth can explain Geeta or any religious text in the right way. The others can explain but it will like 6 blind explaining about the elephant their explanation is right according to their experience but they will never know th elephant. And as far as Prabupada is concerned i read his book Bhagwad gita as it is and i clearly know he has totally destroyed the beauty of Gita by explaining Gita in a fanactic way. If Krishna would have listened to his explanation he would have laughed at him. Today there are so many interpretations on Gita but i think Osho has really touch the cord of heart in his explanation. I am listening to his discourse daily and i feel as though really being transported to 5000 years back in between Krishna and Arjun.
Venu
April 4th, 2009 12:53
Sri Krishnaya Namah!
I have read both commentaries on Gita - by Prabhupad and Osho. I agree with Venugopal that:
1. Osho’s is prefereable;
2. Lord Krishna would not approve this commentary;
3. Osho’s commentary is so powerful and soul enagaging that one can easily
listen to it in discourse form for hours and hours everyday and feel Krisna
on mental and spiritual level;and
4. We are fortunate indeed to be contempreneous of Osho to avail this rare
opportunity of genuine Krishna consciousness through his interpretation.
May Lord Krishna bless his soul heavens.
April 10th, 2009 13:29
Hi All,
I am a nutral reader, I wanted to read Gita as how it is given by Krishna, so I bought the book call Gita as it is by Prabhubatha and finally find out that it is not more than boring book wasted by the writers who tries to force his thinking on a subject to every body who reads it. I got a chance to read Bhagavat Gita Ek Dharshan by Osho in tamil, that is the books which explains, the things what a common man can understand, again Osho is not forcing to accept any of his idea, that is good part from him.
I hope in his comments Mr. Ravindra also tried to do the same thing what Prabhubahda did to Gita. I respect Prabhubadha, but I Cannot accept what he is trying to force. Mr. Ravindra try see things from a nutral point.
Cheers.
Hakkim
April 12th, 2009 19:54
Well..
This problem of interpretation makes for the doom of wisdom of Vednta or the other religion texts from around the world. So two schools/sects are trying to corner for who have the better of the explanation through the followers making a point or two. A text written thousands of years back in a language that is only understood by few and a context that comes to only the enlightened to explain. So whether Prabhupada wrote the better one or it was osho who interpreted nicely is not the question. The question is what you make of it by reading and understanding it. None( the readers) I am sure are any authority or else would have translated the book themselves and understood. Moreover any author would have looked at the previous interpretations and then with some higher understanding put his own thoughts. Perhaps we try to find the interpretation we best like but would also be open to respect what someone else thinks of it.
Better not miss the essence of Gita which is about reaching to God through inquiry and knowledge.
Best
September 11th, 2009 20:07
I have read both the commentaries, by Prabhupad and Osho…Osho has a brilliant mind but to speak on Gita in a limited way is easy task, where as to comprehend Gita in totality will fail brilliance of Osho as well. The wholistic approach and explanation verse by verse and then correlating things in totality really requires solid understanding and realisation. To speak superficially and about few verses in few days seminar is easiest thing which a person can do but on the contrary, Prabhupad deep dives in each verse(he has been doing that only throughout his life) and to prove why Gita is the essence cant be everybody’s cup of tea. To speak on variety of topics and overpower by arguements and logic is easy as compared to make some one realise. Ofcourse Osho is convenient and to mind it is interesting but Prabhupad is a person who doest leave it there rather takes it to the next step, practically apply the conclusion and attain the goal. Practical aspects are always boring but realisation happens from the practicals and not by reading the arguements and logics by brilliant mind,one has his/her choice to make.
September 23rd, 2009 04:18
Hi All,
I’m very much interested in reading geeta darshan by osho..any idea where to get it? in us or india..
thx..
November 5th, 2009 07:59
you can download audio from oshoworld.com i think. if you search on esnips maybe you will find it too.
November 26th, 2009 11:17
salutations unto krishna!
Have you all read geeta? i guess you all have read(and understood a little).
I am little sorry cuz i feel you are searching more for entertainment than enlightment
1. who other than krishna can explain geeta fully? why you ppl are involved in the monolouge?
2. anyone by saying that he is krishna never becomes so bcz krishna is one without second !!!!
3. Had krishna wanted commentries to refine your self, he had not told geeta personally!
4. it is only you who dives inside your innermost core, but never the other outer thing.why should that matter to you??
5. just open the original krishna’s words’ geeta in your own language(not polluted by commentries) and go inside it, you wud start getting his grace.
every person in this world has different karmic patterns; in some life one likes particular tasks and in other life he averses; that means likes and dislikes are two different things but still same cuz they have evolved from same mind.!!
so whereever you feel that empty space inside you is to be fullfilled by prabhupada or osho let the space fullfill bcz its only krishna who is filling it.
BE stith-pragya as krishna has asked to do and please have faith in him, then there wont be any quarrels inside your buddhi !! :)
May Krishna Give You All This Deep and Sharpest Sword of Gyan to cut the ill effects affecting you.!!
Jai Shri Krishna, Jai Jai Shri Krishna, Jai Govind
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March 29th, 2010 06:55
I THINK NO BODY CAN ATTAIN TRUTH BY FOLLOWING SOMONE ELSE
BCAUSE YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT FIRST AND LAST
GITA SUGGEST WAYS TO LIBERATION YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICH ONE YOU WANT
KARMA,BHAKTI,GYANA
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOU AND YOUR DECISION
NOBODY CAN GIVE YOU LIBERATION OTHER THAN YOU
IF IT IS POSSIBLE THAN THERE IS NO NEED TO DOING KARMAYOGA FOR ARJUNA
IF ANY INTERPETITION OF ANYBODY LIKED BY YOU OR DISLIKED BY YOU BOTH ARE TRUE BCAUSE OF YOU
SO THE ESSENCE IS CHOOSE ANY WAY BUT REMEMBER SATYA OR ESHWAR OR MOKSHA CAN ATTAIN ONLY BY YOUR OWN
NO ONE CAN DESCRIBE THE SUPREME EXPERIENCE AND IT ALWAYS COMES IN NEW MANNER
April 11th, 2010 13:49
First of all this is not neccassary ,if you are in U.S.,this is not sign of your thought is correct.what did you write in your article that complete Geeta is summarised form of veda.
According to me ,you have to first read Geeta carefully,then put on comments.
I have read both Geeta written by Prabhupada and osho ,also read many more.
Prabhupada is one of the most popular man which take out wrong meaning from Geeta.
when i was read Geeta (Prabhupada) ,i take it like a only holybook from my religion,and when i read from osho ,i totally fall in love with krishna.Because first time i could understand this book is not related to dharma ,this book is related to life.
so please read first Geeta by Osho,then give any comments
April 11th, 2010 20:42
Dear All ,
First of all many salutations to all of you that you are talking about Geeta and Upnishadas.Somebody says “You have to be lucky to be born in INDIA”.Adhyatman or Spirituablity is the breath and blook of India.And India has ability to lead the whole world to brotherhood and peace and realization.
In my view its almost impossible to describe the realization of Atman/Soul in words.Those who know or taste the nectar of Atman OR Godly consciousness or SAMADHI ..they feel like immortal and unending source of happines and bliss.
There have been more than 100 writers on Geeta and Upnishadas after Shri Krishna. One could write crores of pages on each verse and epiisode.Because the truth is endless and infinite.Its KRISHNA’s intelligence that could breif it out in 18 episodes. Still the secret of happiness remains secret for those who reads GEETA as book. Geeta is secret book of YOGA abdhyas or YOGA.Its said so after every end of episode that Geeta is Dialog betwen Krishna and Arjun for BrahmVidya ( the supreme knowldge) which is again nectar of Upnishadas.
Thousands have reached state of realization just by surrendering and chanting of Geeta in everyday life.
May it be Shri Swami Prabhipad ( ISKNON) Or OSHO or Shankaracharya Or the Jewel of Saints Lineage ..Shri Dnyaneshwar Maharaj. Everybody has agreed and directed the world to Geeta saying that , YES Geeta is way to immortal bliss and happiness.
Ashtavakra , Avadhoot Geeta and Guru Geeta also remains same and Bhagvat Geeta. Becaus the infinite can take any form that is beyond our intelligence and MIND ( thought process).
Unfortunately there are very few people in the world who realize this SAMADHI and pass on the happiness to others like Ramkrishna Paramhans.
I know one such sacred lineage which is pure like GOD himself and helping the whole world to attain KSRISH consciousness OR SAMADHI wihtout any benefit OR charges.
“LOKNATH PATH” was brought to Western and South part of India by Swami Loknath Tirth who initiated many disciples into Mahayoga path ..the same Deeksha Or Initiation of Kundalini dont by Lord “Krishna” to “Arjun”. Unlike other paths of Yoga this is unique and secret in the sense that disciple is not supposed to do anything but just to observer the flow of Prana or Mother energy in his boyd from Muladhar to Crown chakra.
The only living disciple of Loknath Tirth Mahraj is H.H. Narayankaka Maharaj has initiated many people over the world into LOKNATH path. This is the cheapest, simplest and highest way of realization described in Bagvat Geeta.
You can read more at http://www.mahayoga.org.
I pray mother energy OR Bhagavati that all people over the world may experience the Geeta Consciousness and thie world be happy forever.
This path does not descriminate on Cast, Creed, Religion, Color , country OR Sex or Age.
As said by Bhagvan Shri Krishna thia path remains impartial as well as devine as LORD SHRI KRISHNA.
May there be unending happiness in your lives !!
Always at his feet,
Sadhak
May 11th, 2010 12:03
it is very funny.
krishna never wrote the geeta :D what he said was written as geeta.
it very important to know the difference between an apple and the description of an apple.the description is not the apple.
people catch hold of the words and say they know what
krishna is talking about.
the breath that one carries is greater than any philosophy or religion one follows.
one has to follow a religion only cause he finds himself weak to get to the point himself.the religion can only serve the purpose of reaching the point.the point is devoid of religion.even a person who reads geeta daily can miss it,and even someone who has never been born in india can touch it.geeta is not a book to be read…the person who wrote it was preserving it so that those who need it may use it,but what about those who have already known the point that geeta makes ? will they still read it again and again…?
and lastly geeta discourse was for arjuna,its not for someone who did not go through what arjuna went through,it’s not a coffee table issue.
to believe in geeta is just a preparation.not the end.the table that keeps the book of geeta over it has as much the presence of god as the pages of geeta have…
the image of krishna is not krishna.even the ant you kill beneath ur feet unconsiouly is krishna.its better to act over it,than to argue over it.
osho or no osho but the we the people who read it for ourselves are the point.
only krishna can comment on the geeta.no one else can.if one decides to comment on it,let him first come to the point when he can say to other,that you are me,and i am you…that experience is what geeta is about.even these words are just words…
June 24th, 2010 02:25
The works of Osho will be remembered for ever.His lectures are neither Jain, nor Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist etc. He has made an analysis of all literature with open mind. He has not created any barriers/limitations. His views will prevail over many thousands of years because they came from the heart and not from the mind. His main request to the entire humanity was to follow nobody and examine and experience on your own ,the soul /truth /almighty or that power which you may call by any other name ( because names and forms are made for the purpose of identification and convenience to the humanity only).Osho has never compelled anything on others and he really asked people not to copy anybody and also requested to examine things and life on individual experience.Osho means freedom, democracy, love, equality and fraternity of humanity.Certain people wanted to limit human freedom in the areas of thinking in the name of religion and created division in society and created chaos. Osho had thrown them into a corner and made them realise their mistakes. We have the freedom to disagree with Osho in some areas, but that does not mean we are against him as a whole. Osho only wanted improvement in human life through the correct attitudes. He has also given green signal for different methods for achieving the goals. S BALACHANDRAN24.6.2010.
July 27th, 2010 10:22
Mr.Ravinder Nath Watts (Pandit Vats), first thing is that u r pundit..and india is full of many so-called pundits.They have problem with Buddha, they have problem with Mahavira, with Kabir..with every Enlightened Master..Now they have problem with Osho who was the Man Of Millenium,who was real master and it was Osho that western people believed that person like Krishna ,Mahavira ,Buddha can exist.These pundits are the real criminal in India..Their temples are just shop for their income.Aage aanewala dharm OSHO ka hi hoga..Osho ke dharm me koi thakur ya pundit nahi,hindu ya muslim nahi, shiya or sunni nahi..Osho is my Love..
July 27th, 2010 11:45
I think praising of Osho has gone beyond limits and I have to intervene.
First let us all understand the fact that the final commentary on Gita is possible only through Krishna , the Jagadguru. All others can fill some voids. That is all.
To fully understand the Gita , one must have thorough knowledge/understanding of Veda and Vedanta.
I doubt very much that Osho had any grasp on Veda. When the whole world was duped into believing that Veda meant the Yagya karma kanda, it was Aurobindo’s wisdom that flashed new light into another esoteric dimension of Vedas. But, Osho was too carried over by his anti Vedic stand that he did not even think of understanding the other dimensions of Veda.
Understanding Vedanta without Vedic symbolism is another pitfall and most of our today’s wise men are victims of such a state.
Gita is a jist of Vedanta. So its roots lie in Vedas. Osho once interpreted a Vedic mantra thus ” let my neighbor’s field not get rain”.
Once one reads Aurobindo’s book , ” secret of the Vedas”, one immediately knows how flawed were Buddha and Mahavira in their understanding of Vedas. Osho carried on from where Buddha left and his vision vas partly masked by the ignorance that came as as a present from the two masters.
These are Osho’s negative points. Whatever be his inner motive, his choice to live in Luxury was another of his negative points. His book of meditation, for example, though a digest of some techniques of concentration, never can even touch the shallow depths of truth.
His interpretation of Gita is unique and great. But that does not mean the traditional understanding is flawed. Osho Himself laments that the present Indians question the veracity of our Puranas and Itihasas. But the same Osho in other circumstances will lambast the Pauraniks who hold these books as sacred.
I for myself respect Osho. But I do not follow him. His methods can never guarantee me upliftment in Saadhnaa. For that I turn to the MOST ORTHODOX teachers and PUNDITS. This is the Indian Hindu way. It remains so.
Venkat
July 27th, 2010 15:30
So Mr Venkat thanks for comment But what is the difference between the so called pundits and U..Both are doing the same thing..Without knowing anything about Veda,puranas talking about them too much.. Is this a way? Buddha never criticise Veda. He told what could u got by reading Vedas or puranas..Reading is utterly meaningless…Now geeta tells soul is eternal..It is known by Buddha Mahavira,Krishna,Bodhidharma,Nanak,Kabir,Osho…Thats why these people lived dangerously..And u know how many attempts had made to kill Buddha,Kabir,Osho..But they never feared..But if someone is going to kill i m sure what u r going to do and U too know it..Now what u say u know Veda,U know Puranas,u know exact meaning of Geeta…Honestly If u dont know then for what u r crying.And u talk about Hindu first thing is that even ur supreme court does not held it as a religion..As far as i know there was no such religion in this world..Some arabs called Indian people Hindu related to river Sindhu…& even if u ask a muslim of india he knows the very meaning of hindu.He calls himself a Hindu Muslim..I think persons from every religion knows the meaning of hindu except So called hindu…
August 2nd, 2010 09:52
-Sanskrit meaning of the word ‘veda’ is gyan(knowledge), it is our immatuarity that we assume the vedas to be different from modern day renamed vedas(physics,chemestry,geograpgy,astronomy etc)!
-To understand geeta or any other scripture one surely needs basic idea of the modern knowledge but not ancient vedas as our consiousness is not very developed to grasp them and there are fortunate few who can directly understand vedas without expanding there awareness in the modern science.
-But the people who say geeta can be understood only with mastery of old vedas must be from some ‘parrot cult groups’
-Increased consiousness alone can help in understanding of geeta,ashavakra geeta,ribhu geeta upanishads etc. as against memorised useless mechanism/slokas, practicality and present knowledge can help increase our awereness But dreaming about some stories whose origin itself is in question might prove dangerous to our consiousness. hence, importance has been given to nishkama karma! this indirectly expands our awereness as energy will now have only way to flow towards lord,whereas desires divide our being with consistantly creating voids in our being resulting in damaged &misguided consiousness.
-No commentry,no memorised mantras,no rocket sciences are needed to understand scriptures. Only an open heart,mind and a little motivation to move towards your beloved God has to be present in you.
-Thats it,this is the situation that is to be created by any guru to make a diciple familiar with the unknowable.Thereafter all the ways are towards your beloved no multiple ways exist like gyanmarg,bhaktimarg,karmayog,multiple gurus etc. then you begin to realize that there is no path that leads to god but all paths are towards god only.!
Thanks for listening to me with love:)
August 9th, 2010 13:22
Mr Sandeep,
It seems that yuo are almost fanatic of Osho.Though Even I find some works for osho interesting that doesn’t mean that you can force your views on others.
As far as Hindus are concerned they know what their religion is.You don’t need to remind them.Instead I pity on you that after living so many years in India,you don’t know that religion of majority of population is “Santan Dharma”.
Regards,
R.J.
August 10th, 2010 08:47
Dear R.J. thanks for comments. You talk about Sanatan Dharma..Then what is the meaning of Hindu. And what the Sanatan Dharma teaches? Killing women in the name of sati Pratha, Killing animals in the name of so-called Demigods..talking all the time about love and then Honour killing..torturing poor people which these hindus called sudra or dalit for thousands of years..not allow these people entering into the temple. Infact not the temple, shops of pundits. Some days ago some hindus kill dalits just bcoz a dog living in dalit area barked at them..Sometime i think these hindus are comparable to animals..Bcoz only animals can reply to barking of dogs. In Nepal,some 6-7 months ago, these so-called great hindu killed lakhs of animals to make happy their demigod. And they called themselves the only non-violent people of the world. Vow..Not only animals sometimes they sacrifice their children for wealth and money. And these same hindus abuses western country bcoz they have wealth and lack in spirituality..These hindus are producing children like machine and blaming muslims for this…Great..Now these hindus abuses the culture of western people due to their their openness of sex..And if you are an experience person,you know that these hindus are the most sexual persons in the world thinking about sex all the time..You can go to school,colleges,company departments,anywhere..And the great thing is in India a girl cannot walk alone anywhere safely..And not only indian girl if u know about the cases of Goa where so many western girl had raped..I have never read any story that an indian girl have been raped outside india in western country…Almost all your great leaders indulging sex activity includind Mahatma gandhi.He sleeps with nude women to check his celibacy and talked always against sex..Even his followers feel disturbed by this event..Now there are many so-called great pundit residing in india. They just read geeta,upanishad they become pundit..Infact todays nobody read them but they are pundit..They open their shops of temples and looted the in the name of god..Although They know nothing about god and spirituality..And if you have ever been to so-called spiritual places in india like ujjain,haridwar, kashi,varanasi and so many..u know that too..Bcoz i think you have some experience of these places.. Now you said that i am fanatic of Osho. Then for ur kind information neither i met him nor i went to his ashram and not i am his follower. But stiil i love him,i love his works.Thanks him that he didn’t believe in just sitting and giving speeches like so-called hindu saints..He searches new meditation techniches for the modern world..I am too from a hindu family and thanks my parent that they never tell me that i m a hindu or muslim. So please dont teach me what is sanatan dharma.. I know well the meaning of sanatan dharma..And the meaning is not that what u think..Dharma is always eternal but it is not hindu,muslim,christian or jain etc..That is what Osho did. After Gautam buddha 2500 years, he revive the same eternal Secret.. Thanks.
August 10th, 2010 09:43
No doubt OSHO was the most courageous man of our era, and he really had that fearlessness,freedom & much more that can envy anyone; and coming to Hinduism I do agree with friend Sandeep singh that our hindu bhramins(pandits & parrots) have been the core cause of completely paralyzing the sanatan dharma. And in such a bhramin polluted society someone is certainly required to purify dhrma. this responsibility was taken by osho rajneesh and no doubt he retained to us that which is ours but not of parrots. It is quite expected that any dog will bark if bread is taken away from it; same was done by pandits in osho’s times. Osho heralded society ONLY to give us our real treasure and take away all unreal but thickness of our ignorance is so surprising that even if we get bhagwan krishna again at our home we will ask him how many upanishads,puranas etc you know about?
-Osho’s diciples did every kind of nonsense in the aashram, BUT even after doing such things they are far more ahead of we great hindus today in every aspect, be it spirituality, materiality etc.
This proves that no matter how is your karma, your real master is capable enough to take you to right path!!
August 10th, 2010 09:44
Dear Sandeep,
You seem to have lot of negative energy build inside you.Your loving OSHO would never have been pleased with you.
I feel that you have not been able to interpret him properly.
Coming back to Sanatan dharam ,this is not just a religion ..this is a way of lIfe.This is only culture/tradition that believe in Universal Acceptance.As Swami Vivekananda said it “As many faiths,so many paths”.
Every culture has its Ups and downs so as ours.But the fact that it has remained Alive for more than 5000 years itself shows its greatness.
Such is the beatu of the culture that the things which weren’t good have been taken from.
It is like a open source system.
If we consider god, the concept of god, the practices that lead one to god, and the ideas, thoughts and philosophies around the nature of the human mind the source code, then India has been the place where the doors have been thrown wide open and the coders have been given free reign to craft, invent, reinvent, refine, imagine, and re-imagine to the point that literally every variety of the spiritual and cognitive experience has been explored, celebrated, and documented.
Atheists and goddess worshipers, heretics who’ve sought god through booze, sex, and meat, ash covered hermits, dualists and non-dualists, nihilists and hedonists, poets and singers, students and saints, children and outcasts … all have contributed their lines of code to the Hindu string.
So many cultures have come,so many cultures have gone.But it is stll withstanding all the storm.
And when you say that Girls aren’t safe while walking alone in India,is it just a Hindu to be blamed for it ???
Are you sure that it cannot be Osho lover like you who won’t be doing eve teasing.
Just to prove your point you are just turning blind eye to some of things.
Pains to see so much hatred and anger developed in the youth of India.
Nevertheless Time and experience show way to everyone.
God bless you!!!
Cheers,
R.J.
August 11th, 2010 02:25
Now what could i say. Nothing could be done to this great country..And my great india people still stick to the oldest rotten culture..I feel very shameful when i see people spitting anywhere,anyplace, throwing their wastage anywhere, anyplace..Even after 60 years of so-called independence,they couln’t learn to live in clean..Even seeing this our youth doesn’t want to change themselves. Doing the same thing whatever their ancestor had done.. And our ancestor including great so called pundits had told the people of all over the world that soul is eterna. And funny thing is that they was the most fearful people of the world. Otherwise there is no reason that the people of this country has remained slaves for thousands years. If soul is eternal then what was the fear. This country has so many beggers that u can make a country with them. And reason is that we have worshipped these beggers for thousands years. this country has produced great beggers. From Buddha to Vinoba Bhave and remained poor. The good thing India has done after independence is begging from Americans,Britains..Still people are interesting in begging..Now dear if u still want to beg things from other countries u can but don’t teach such thing to ur coming generation..And the people of this country is so great that they are living in corruption and they teach their children this too. People are not interested in working but they are interested in money..Now God bless u and bless the people of this country too…
August 11th, 2010 14:58
The great mystics of india were not beggers..!!!
buddha,krishna,mahavir,janaka etc were all greatest kings ever in the history of not only india but the whole world..!!
In fact they become so much rich that they did not need money even, they won their lives… hence the name ‘mahavir’-means he who won everything!
If we, the youth call them as beggers, then it is imaginable that there really is serious disorder in the way we percept reality..!!
people who dont know even little about these great men, have no right in participating in this kind of discussions..!
Any culture can bear intricacies of pandits,bhramins; but to bear of people like sandeep is keeping the whole culture at stake.!!:((
I request grp members to forgive Mr. sandeep as he is still a school boy,
also forget him by not replying to his comments in order to reduce unwanted material on the post.
Thanks
August 11th, 2010 16:27
Mr Sandeep,
I cannot stop my laughing at your comment.
I don’t need to say anything more.
I cannot imagine someone stooping to such a low level that he can call Buddha a begger which interestingly you were praising a lot in your previous comment.
What has changed so suddenly in between that from being a hero ,Buddha has become a begger ??
If Buddha is a begger,then I would love to be such a begger.
And I don;t understand your special knack for brahmins or pandit
I have got many friends as brahmin/pandits.There might be some bad apples in the cart but to discard whole box is a foolish thing.
I think some pandit has kicked you so hard in the Ass that you are not able to forget it .
Take a chill pill!!!! :)
Cheers,
R.J.
August 12th, 2010 05:11
Dear Friends,
1. I have been following the discussion on OSHO in this forum and enjoying it very much. Osho is a great man. No doubt about that. But we need not agree with him 100%. Some people may agree with him 75% after reading all his works. Some people may agree with different levels and percentage of agreement.
2. I came to understand the richness and wholeness of Hinduism only after reading the lectures on 10 Upanishads by OSHO starting from Eesavaasya upanishad.
3. Some people in any walk of life may commit some mistakes. For that we cannot blame that walk of life as a whole. I want to bring to our notice, that recently, Our Hon’ble Supreme Court of India has raised very valuable questions in the case of closure of
EVENING LAW COLLEGES by the Bar Council of India. I do not want to reproduce the entire judgement for want of space. But the highlights are given below:-
The Bar council of india directed to close all the evening law colleges in INDIA as it was under the impression that they were not functioning effectively. The Hon’ble Supreme Court of India said that if some irregularities are found in the functioning of evening law college, the remedy lies not in closing all the law colleges but trying new ideas and methodologies to check / prevent the occurrance of irregularities. If we start closing everything like this, then nothing in this Universe will be spared.
4. What is required is improvement, we cannot destroy the bad, we have to convert the bad as good and the good as very good and the very good as excellent. There are lot of irregularities in all walks of life including religions. Let us try to increase the level of perfection because As Swami Vivekanandaa has clearly pronounced that the entire human life is a travel from a lower level of perfection towards a higher level of perfection.
5. Even the Science has proved in labaratory conditions,that the negatively charged electrons can be converted/changed as positively charged ones.There will be lot of changes in future and humanity will get very good leaders for proper guidance. Please DO NOT BLAME ANY PARTICULAR COMMUNITY OR CASTE OR RELIGION OR LANGUAGE FOR THE PRESENT SITUATION. Osho has clearly stated that the present is the accumulation of the past. Let us improve the present and future will be the best.
With regards. S.BALACHANDRAN
12.8.2010.
August 12th, 2010 15:54
There is another person who comment on me but didn’t mention his/her name. Next mention ur name. For what u r fearing.. We are not fighting just debating and i am enjoying it. U should also enjoy it. U said i am going to put ur whole country’s culture at stake. Dear if just a single person can put ur whole culture at stake then i think that culture is worthy of it..That culture has no sense.. U hit the nail on the head.. Thanks to give such a great credit to me..although i never thought of it that how could i do it? But u have great insight in u. Good.. Love it & enjoying it too…Keep commenting…
August 12th, 2010 17:04
Dear Friends,
Ours is a society where more freedom to follow and try any new method is possible. A person born in this planet as Hindu can not be restricted by any means. There are no limitations.
Science has now declared that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. They only take different forms. Long back, our Vedas openly declared that there is only GOD everywhere.All the matter and energy are only the different form of the same supreme power.
We can use any language, method for knowing the ultimate truth. One of the stories in Upanishad goes like this:-
The student approaches the Teacher for guidance and admission in the Gurukula.The teacher informs his sishya that he could teach only what is known to him and also admits the fact that there may be manyother ways not known to the teacher and the sishya is not limited or restricted and the student can also try any new methods possible to find the ultimate truth.There can be no barriers for getting salvation and finding the ultimate truth. All limitations and barriers will be shortlived.
With regards
S BALACHANDRAN
12.8.2010
10.35PM (IST)
August 13th, 2010 07:15
Dear S BALACHANDRAN, i understand ur opinion on freedom. But not agree. People in india always lived with the illusion of so-called democracy, secularity and freedom.. Dont forget what hindus have done to dalits,untouchability,muslims,buddhists. Once upon a time india was a buddhists country for 1000 years, what happened with them, who oppose buddhism. Even i heard that when some jainism sect wants to make the big statue of Mahavira in mumbai, then hindu oppose them..No there is no freedom.. It is forced. So manyt hindus had made attempt to kill Osho.. Now what is ur opinion. Please comments.
August 13th, 2010 15:27
Religion is like an organised company,works alloted to respective people.
natural laws are inevitably applicable everywhere! From a life cycle of product,economic life cycle of an organisation, organism,religion,universe and finally bhrama vishnu and mahesh..!!
-Let me share an example:- when bhishma saw the great war unavoidable he approached mata ganga asking, “mother what will happen of this great sanskriti? of this great prithvi? of the unblamable man kind? just bcz of a mere ‘rajgaddi’.?”
the all knowing mother replied:-”listen dear son, always polar opposites replace themselves, so is going to happen with this sanskirti, bcz it has reached the supreme heights and is bound to fall aback now!”
-So no blame game wud lead us anywhere, but our intrest to self grow will certainly.
-i listened to osho satsang (perhaps geeta darshan) in which he shared immencely valuable opinion:-”beedh ko kabhi jagrutti nahi hoti, aur jo bhi jagrut hue hain ve sab akele hi the” thats why mystics never say follow this and that.
I dont mean that dont follow any religion but i do mean that religion is just 1st step towards jagrutti it is just for guidance to begin the journey, and after completing the first step when we become all alone our actual journey begins!
-osho also says that almost of all are stuck at before 1st step, only few are able to reach 1st step and still fewer who come ahead!
-it is also seen in geeta, in the beginning krishna gives instructions to arjuna and at last he says forget karma,dharma,religion and all just come under my shelter!
thus we can understand importance of religion here, we have to remain with it till we get matured then just throw it far away otherwise it becomes obstacle as krishna says.
Thanks
August 14th, 2010 12:45
Dear Shri Singh,
We study history in schools and due to the inexperienced stage at that age, we start believing, that the history is true. When some king or dictator rules, the historians write something very good about the ruler, which may not be the truth.
My children have shown me their text books and stated that when ‘x’ was the ruler in Tamil nadu (India), the school text books carried a lesson praising the then ruler. After the next general elections, when there was change in the rulers, immediately the text book committee added a new lesson on the new ruler and deleted the lesson on the previous ruler. This is the state of our history books.
British divided so many countries for their business supremacy and they divided india and ruled. When introducing the English system of education in india, Lord Meccauley openly declared that he was introducing the English system of education in India as the then East india company wanted more clerks, stenographers and accountants at a very cheap wage rate which they could not recruit from England. So the very purpose of introducing English education was not for reforming the educational system. We study the text books of those days and fight with each other unnecessorily due to misunderstanding.
There was a country by name Yugoslavia till the very early nineties ruled by the Communist party government in those days. At that time, that country had a set of history books for the school and college curricullum. Subsequently, after the downfall of the communist rule in USSR, the communist government in Yugoslavia also fell down and that country had broken as 7or 8 small pieces with new names and smaller territories than the old country. Some time, in 1989-1991, the famous news paper THE HINDU published an article stating that all the 7 or 8 countries which split from Yugoslavia are now having different history books and each history book followed by one country is at variance with that of the history book followed in the remaining 6 or 7 countries. So nobody in these countries, study the real history and the new born countries are also blaming that the history books followed in schools and colleges in the educational curricullum in the erstwhile Yugoslavia is a dupe history and each new country is claiming that the new history followed at present in their country is the real and true history. Nobody knows the real history. History is the whim and fancy of the author of the text book who writes it according to the directions of the man in power. Don’t attach much importance to the old and dirty books of history and waste our time.
Atrocities committed by one group on other group or groups have no religious sanction and we cannot blame an entire religion for the blunder of certain section even if it is true. In all walks of life, always there will be a section doing mischief and we have to find ways to reform them and we will succeed. Not only section of Hindus but also sections of Muslims and section of Christians fought with each other unnecessarily and killed human beings in the past. The main reason for all these misdeeds was that each religious group was unable to digest the fact that truth can be expressed in many ways ( more than one way) and felt by more than one way. Intolerance for new ways and means for achieving the purpose, was the reason for the unnecessary fight among various groups in the past.
Even now, every week, we read in newspapers attacks of one religious group on the other groups in weekly prayer on Fridays in Pakistan and other countries in this 21st century. Lord Buddha opposed worship through idols because he never said anything about the concept of God. Not only Buddha, even atheists and agnostics are part and parcel of Hindu religion only.Even in the days of Ramayanaa, Shri Raama was advised by a Charvaaha Rishi, to fight with Dasharatha and get the kingdom, when Ramaa was directed to go the forests for 14 long years, Chaarvaaha is the agnostic and agnostics were treated as part and parcel of our religion only in those days.
You have pointed out in your letter about the atrocities committed on harijans by other communities. Probably, you may not be knowing people like Shri Vaidhyanaatha Iyer who fought for the rights of untouchables in entering the Meenaakshi Amman Temple in Madurai in Tamil nadu. Poet Subramaniya Bharathi was a great Tamil reformer on the same lines and so many Hindus fought for reforms in the areas of untouchablity and women’s rights.
So, we cannot blame a whole nation or whole religion or whole language for any of the past misdeeds if any. Our duty is to find the best ways for uniting the humanity and make the human life more happier and enjoyable.
Buddhism has become totally irrelevant as it is only a part of Hinduism and it follows the worship of idols of Lord Buddha and all types of rituals condemned by Buddha himself. Hinduism has place for worship through idols or without idols and it has also place for the non-believers and agnostics in its fold. I consider all the jains also as part and parcel of Hindu society as it is the truth. Brahmins are not the founders of Hindu religion. Hinduism has no founder and it is not bound by any limitations. It is wide open for any new ideas, and new methods in finding the real truth.
Tomorrow, if any body finds a new sect, with a new philosophy, that will also be absorbed into the folds of Hinduism as a new part of the religion which is existing.
You can write and share your ideas and we welcome it always. I am also a fan of OSHO one among the greatest lights in human history. LET US SHARE AND IMPROVE THE HAPPINESS IN OUR LIVES.
S BALACHANDRAN
CHENNAI
14.8.2010 5.59PM- IST.
August 16th, 2010 13:27
If someone has made up one”s mind that hindus or hinduism is bad, well, it is difficult to convince him that he is not wholly correct. Duality is in the nature of things. Good and bad or the not-so-good both co-exist, like day and night. If I want only day and to remove night, how intelligent will I be ‘. Histories of all countries and all religions are full of good individuals and bad, good deeds and bad. Human race has always endeavouered to correct the aberrations and never sought to extinguish the human race merely because some individuals or groups are bas. Experience has shown that this exercise will continue.
August 18th, 2010 11:49
Dear S BALACHANDRAN U said that “Buddhism has become totally irrelevant as it is only a part of Hinduism and it follows the worship of idols of Lord Buddha”. But what i found that Gautam Buddha is worshipped only in India. And for that Ambedkar is to blame. In the rest part of the world people used his statue for meditation not for worship. U knew it very well that no indians used the statue of Rama,Krishna and so many for meditation. Infact indians are always interested in worshipping. That’s the only reason why Bodhidharmatook this religion to china and japan so many parts of the world to save this from destroying. That’s why Atisha took this religion from india to tibet which is the most spiritual country of the world. And thanks to Mao of china who captured this beautiful country and destroyed all the monaestries.Perhaps that’s why Osho born in india since his previous birth was in tibet. Thats the only reason this religion is going to be shifted in western country. If u have heard some latest data u will come toknow that there are so many western people who are interested in this religion.I have no doubt that this religion is going to increase in next 100 years. This religion still have some freshness. And no buddhists in tibet do unnecessary rituals. have u heard about their rirual “BARDO” No hindu and muslims can ever do this beautiful ritual and it is done when people are going to die. And indians are always affraid of dying but they are worshippers of Gita which tells that there is no thing like dying in this world..Thanks again,keep commenting.
August 18th, 2010 23:56
Dear Shri Singh,
I could not reply to you immediately because of fever.Today after recovery, I write to you. Your view that statues and idols are to be used for meditation is 100% correct.That is why our forefathers constructed huge ,most peaceful and beautiful temples as places of worship and meditation is a form of worship only. In our village, there is still that very big and very old prahaaram, a stone mandapam which can accommodate 5000 people to do meditation peacefully. KINDLY remember this temple was constructed 1000 years before, not now. But only very few use that space for meditation. So, what I can do ? System is not to be destroyed. We have to make it function effectively.
I have seen hundreds of people meditating in the meditation halls of big temples where silence is available.But we can not expect the facility of meditation in temples where lakhs of people come for prayer daily.Take Tirupathi in South India for example. There the space available for devotees to sit and meditate within the temple premises is NIL. Hence meditation halls have to be constructed at a very long distance only.
The basic concept in our tradition is that the idols of God in any name or form is one among the best tools for meditation. I am having a small photo of my family deity( a TAMIL SAINT) in my house and my native village is more than 500 kilometers from the present place of living.So every day this photo helps me as a very good tool to enter meditation within few seconds.I can not go to my native village, more than once in a year.
Some temples, where huge crowds of people come everyday become commerciallised because of certain shortfall in infrastructure.Let us improve them and solve the problems in future. The word idolotry used in English is a misnomer. Any body, who think that people worship only the idols are cheating themselves. Worship through idols leads to the highest form of meditation very quickly. Worship is the first step in meditation which is very easy to follow and helps to improve our concentration power in our work spot.This is my own experience. But all people can not concentrate for meditation with the same type of idols. People have different complexions which makes them require different idols for MEDITATION.That is why different forms of deities have been created by our forefathers. Leave the Adi Shankaracharya who has read vedas and upanishads and made valuable commentaries. Even the present day Shankaracharyas are doing great service in our society. When we read something bad in the news papers about one personality who is well known to most people, we cannot destroy the entire system created and maintained by him.We have to remove the leader person who has committed wrongs and appoint a new good leader. We should not run away from the system and create a new system. Because, fault lies not in the system, but with the individuals.
One religious leader suppose involves himself in criminal activites, can we run away from the temple ? No. We have to remove the wrongleader and appoint a new leader. That is the only remedy. What is the guarantee, the new system created will not find a worst leader at some point of time.
Fault is with the individuals and not on the philosophies. Some followers commit mistakes, then the whole philosophy cannot be condemned. But I would like to tell you that whatever sufferings OSHO had from certain CHRISTIANS and as you told from some HINDUS, it is not an organised attack by a religion. Some mentals in any religious group do this type of attacks due to intolerance and incapacity to give proper reply. But we cannot blame the entire religion in any case.
For example, according press information, recently in MAY 2009, lakhs of Tamil People were unnecessarily killed by the Srilankan military and IT IS A BUDDHIST NATION AND BUDDHIST GOVERNMENT. So can we ban BUDDHISM through out the world.It will not be correct.
I have Christian friends who read OSHO literature and enjoy. I know Hindus who read OSHO and enjoy. As you have correctly pointed out in your letter, only 10 to 15% of the people are having the aptitude for meditation and the remaining 85% remain in the stage of worshipping itself and does not reach further levels. But don’t blame the religion. Because they are creations of persons only. We are also persons, why can’t we try to improve our brothers and sisters and lead to a dynamic life.
Buddhism as taught by Buddha is not the present day Buddhism. The present day Buddhism will not expand because it has its own seeds of exclusiveness.If we want to spread, you have to include and unite all the people. If we exclude something today, then later, finally we may have to exclude so many other things and finally we shall end up as a lonely without any followers.
RELIGIONS will not help us to reach the goal of realisation without our own effort. Because, even OSHO’S followers, after reading his beautiful lectures, which is the whole and sweet essence of Vedas, if they don’t undergo practice of meditation and higher levels of saadhana then there is no meaning in it. Dear Friend, my view is that we read a lot and we have no time to practice everything.If Good leaders are not available at present, why can’t we become leaders and make needed reforms ?
English expanded as a very good language because it started including words from so many languages and now there are more than a million words in their dictionaries. They have added words from French, German, Hindi, Mandarin, Tamil, Telugu and many other languages. So let us include everybody and expand. I take leave for 3 days and meet you again.
With regards
S.BALACHANDRAN
19.8.2010
5.26AM IST