COMMENT:

Ann Barnhardt’s explanation of Quran, is a very shrewd-discernment ( of Quran ). She is burning the Quran, she is doing something that will bring good results. She is on the Right Track. I agree with Ann that:

” Allah is not all-knowing & wise. Allah is son of a bitch. ”

Surinder Paul Attri

The caste system of yore was based on occupation and its limitations. The belief of rebirth and its effects also contributed to the question of one’s birth. Occupation was nevera hurdle to be spiritual or for moksha. The combining of occupation with spiritual aspirations was never restricted by our sages. The truth is the present caste system, the brahmin community had done a great injustice to sanathana Dharma by declaring themselves superior ( which was never the case) and took up modern occupation, never lived upto the moral and social restrictions enjoined upon them by the dharma sasthras.

The brahmins should take upon themselves and undo their brahminism which they are not following and work towards the true integrity and value as propounded by our rishis.

NOT EVERY BRAHMIN, 90 % Brahmins are the only curse to Hindu Society,

BAN CASTISIM & RESERVATION,
BRING ONLY ONE LAW, ONE CASTE, ONE RELEGION, ONE NATION, EQUALITY, then i proudly shout I AM BHARATHIYA (HINDUSTANI)

UNTIL THAT WE ARE THE SLAVES OF INDIA (Britishers India - Ruleing by congis ) secularism

You indicated that “Hindu Dharam Shastras recognize six types of gangsters: to wit, a). He who sets fire to other peoples properties, b). He who poisons other people, c). He who wields weapons for committing murder, d). He who robs other peoples wealth, e). He who forcibly occupies other peoples land, f). He who forcibly carries away other peoples women. Hindu Shastras & tradition prescribe that, the gangster should be killed as soon as he is sighted”.

That certainly looks very honorable in print but weren’t all these atrocities committed by our Hindu brethren on the merry path to attaining Sanatana Dharma during the Gujarat Massacre of defenseless Muslim citizens; perpetrated behind the protective cloak of government sanctioned anonymity? Mr. Mathur’s intellectually degrading assumption that the readership consists of gullible, cerebrally vacuous pheasants with a beedi propped behind the ear is stereotypical of the chicanery RSS has been known to defecate on the unwary. Can one logically expect any “evidence of RSS involvement” when the farcical “investigation” was conducted by RSS serfs under Brahmin orders?

Shobhit Mathur refers to the Gujarat “riots” as a “tragic” outcome of public outrage. Either Mr. Mathur is ignorant of the radical difference between “riots” and “culling”, and between “public outrage” and “planned pogrom”, or he’s simply being an obedient, little sycophant following RSS’s marching orders to mislead the readership. If one were to accurately read between the lines, the only “tragic” outcome would have been if the shoe were on the other foot. Nevertheless, one must give credit where credit is rightfully due. And so I applaud your writing, Sir. You almost had me fooled.

By S.P. Attri ( USA )

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1. If you put this top-flight question to a Phoney-Liberal Hindu politician in India, he would most likely recant with a saucy, sarcastic, high-spirited query in the opposite way, such as:

“ What would happen if earth stopped rotating ? “

But wouldn’t you worry if, the warlords of Islam take over your land, your people, and everything else ? Therefore, you need not be emotionally-crippled about this possibility. There is no need to be hesitant about examining, how Islam will boss this world.

To express the answer in a few words: It would be like being taken over by the Fourth-Reich ( of Islam ), and all Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) of the world, shall domicile in the:

“ Biggest Dog-House of the world. “

2. There is prolific evidence from 1000 years of Islamic rule in India, to divulge to us what would be the fate of Kafir ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) subjects under Islamic-Domination of the world. Islam claims to be the most gracious, and the most merciful faith on earth. This excessively kind religion of “ all-merciful Allah “ shall bless the Kafirs of the world with, slaughter & destruction of hateful-Kafirs, on a scale without parallel in human history. These acts of moral outrage are completely justified in Islam, as long as these are conducted against Kafirs, in fact these acts are reckoned as acts of piety by Allah, who rewards his followers, with luxuries of Janat ( Moslem’s Paradise ), especially choicest sex with 72 houries for each Moslem. Make no mistake. Islam is fully committed to robbing & murdering Kafirs, under the dress of Jehad ( Holy-War ), which is the most sacred duty of a Moslem. Jehad is a mighty pillar of Islam, without which Islam would lose, a major part of its grandeur, greatness, and raison d’ etre. This holy-war is for the conquest of all Kafir ( Non-Moslem ) lands. Moslems are taught that, they have no recourse other than to overthrow, all governments that do not rest on pure Islamic principles, and are corrupt & corrupting. Islamic government is the government of divine rights, and its laws cannot be changed, modified, or contested.

3. Acts of murder, loot, pillage, rape, and destruction, are considered shameful acts, by civilized societies of the world. But Hazrat Mohammad told his followers that, since he was the last prophet, for all time to come, such raids were now sanctioned by Allah. Moslems must follow Hazrat Mohammad, as the Divine Model Of Practice. This is what Islam expects of Moslems. If they don’t, then they are sure to enter Hell, because then the Prophet will not intercede on their behalf.

4. If Islam ever gets control of the whole world, the mindless, empty-headed Sulla barbarians shall impose at least the following 20 shameful disabilities on the Kafirs of the world :

( 1 ). Kafirs shall not build any new place of worship

( 2 ). Kafirs are not to repair any old place of worship, which has been destroyed by the Moslems

( 3 ). Kafirs are not to prevent Moslem travelers from staying in their place of worship

( 4 ) Kafirs are to entertain for 3 days, any Moslem who wants to, stay in their homes, and for a longer period if the Moslem falls ill

( 5 ). Kafirs are not to harbor any hostility or to, give aid & comfort to hostile elements

( 6 ). Kafirs are not to prevent any one of them, from getting converted to Islam

( 7 ). Kafirs have to show respect to every Moslem

( 8 ). Kafirs have to allow Moslems to participate in their private meetings

( 9 ). Kafirs are not to dress like Moslems

( 10 ). Kafirs are not to name themselves with Moslem names

( 11 ). Kafirs are not to ride on horses, with saddle and bridle

( 12 ). Kafirs are not to possess arms

( 13 ). Kafirs are not wear signet or seals on their fingers

( 14 ). Kafirs are not to sell or drink liquor openly

( 15 ). Kafirs are to wear a distinctive dress, which shows their inferior status, and separates them from Moslems

( 16 ). Kafirs are not to propagate their customs and usages among the Moslems

( 17 ). Kafirs are not to build their houses in the neighborhood of Moslems

( 18 ). Kafirs are not to bring their dead, near the graveyards of Moslems

( 19 ). Kafirs are not to observe their religious practices publicly, or mourn their dead loudly.

( 20 ). Kafirs are not to buy Moslem slaves

This is not a complete list of disabilities, imposed upon Zimmies ( that is, those Kafirs who have not been murdered, and are allowed to live in the Islamic lands ( Dar-Ul-Islam, or the land of peace ), upon payment of Jiziya or Poll-Tax.

5. Hindu Dharam Shastras recognize six types of gangsters:

a. He who sets fire to other peoples properties

b. He who poisons other people

c. He who wields weapons for committing murder

d. He who robs other peoples wealth

e. He who forcibly occupies other peoples land

f. He who forcibly carries away other peoples women

Hindu Shastras & tradition prescribe that, the gangster should be killed as soon as he is sighted.

But in Islam, above mentioned acts of gangsterism, are sanctioned by Allah. Any Moslem who performs these acts ( on Kafirs ) stands hallowed as apostle, prophet, sufis etc etc. Worse yet, Islam lays down that, those who object ( that is, the Kafirs ) to advocacy of gangsterism or resist gangsterism, should be put to death.

6. American & Western-European leaders, as well as the Phoney-Liberal politicians of India, have a penchant for saying that:

” Radical Islam is a problem, but Islam is not a problem. ”

This is pure un-adulterated Non-Sense. The problem is Islam itself.

What brutal tyranny, ruthless slaughter, savage-suppression, did the Moslems not inflict on Kafirs, in the name of Islam ? This excessively kind religion of Islam, mercilessly cut down hundreds of millions of innocent Kafirs, under the Islamic sword of bigotry. What was all that for ?

For the glory of Allah, and for the establishment of a global Islamic empire. Are these the actions of a peaceful religion ( Islam ) ?

7. The civilized societies of the world, practice the concept of democracy & human rights, in which everyone ( man or woman ) is entitled to all rights & freedoms. But the Islamic Clergy does not consider democratice system suitable, either for the Moslems or for the practice & expansion of Islam. Kafirs can Never be considered equal to Moslems in Islam. Ideas of individualism, liberalism, constitutionalism, human rights, equality, liberty, rule of law, democracy, free markets, separation of church & state, have no resonance in Islam.

8. What about nationalism & secularism ?

Nationalism & Secularism, are totally incompatible with Islam, because Islam’s goal is global-empire ( Islamic empire ). In nationalism, all citizens are brothers & equal. But in Islam, a Non-Moslem is a Hateful-Kafir, who is an alien & needs to be eliminated. Islam totally rejects the idea that, citizenship depends on birthplace, Islam asserts that citizenship depends on belief, and Non-Moslem beliefs are totally un-acceptable to Islam. That is why, when Islam expands, nationalism is destroyed.

9. We are face to face with the fanaticism & blind-terror of Islam. In civilized societies, politics & religion are separated, but in Islam politics is religion & religion is politics. Moslems feel that ideologies of liberalism & nationalism, led by Kafirs, have caused Moslems to forsake the God-given law ( Allah’s law ) of Quran, and the religious life vouschafed to them. They consider their Jehad as a war between good Moslem world & evil Kafir-world.

10. Let the Kafirs of the world be warned that:

Democracy, Nationalism, Secularism, Individualism, Liberalism, Separation Of Church & State, Human Rights, Human Freedom, Free Markets

Are ideas of universal validity.

Islam is something evil. It is a cold-blooded killer & is plunged in darkness. If Islam ever takes over the world, then these ideas of universal validity, shall go to hell. They shall all be in the direct line of Islamic fire, and shall be demolished “ Brick By Brick. “

Surinder Paul Attri

Every one here is talking about caste system. So caste is a biggest problem in India So why don’t hindus Shankaracharya come forward and try to remove caste system.
Oh you expect Shankaracharya to do this. Do you really think he will do it. Do you really think that he will cut his own head.
Oh Stop Begging before this brahmin Shankarcharyas. They are the real Asuras of India.

Kaliyug ka Asur = Brahmins

Shobhit, very nice article! People need common sense to understand it which looks like very uncommon in these so called intellectuals.

Jai Shree Ram

I think you are also an agent of RSS brahmins. If you reallly care for RSS, then tell all the RSS members to remove the caste system from India. I bet every hindu will praise RSS for removing the caste system. Everyone will follow what RSS tells them to do so. There will be no more conversion. Hindu rashtra will emerge only after caste system is removed from India else no hindus will support you. Only brahmins will shout for hindu rashtra as they do now because their brahminical rule is in danger now.

When RSS Goons Go & Attacks Poor/Arms-Less Indians On Caste/ Communal Lines — Police Men are Told in Advance - Not to Stop/Arrest them (RSS Goons) — See How Brave they Are ! — But Tell them (Cowards RSS Men) to Join Army & face Terrorists In Kashmir - they will be Down with Diarrhoea !

When L. K. Advani Praised Jinnah In Pakistan, He Had Clearly Forgotten that His Masters In RSS will Not Like this - Result = Advani was Cut to Size & Wings Chopped-Off !

Angry RSS Chief K. S. Sudarshan Said: Politics Is Like a Prostitute, Which Keeps Changing It’s Cloths & Make-Up !

When Over Confidant L. K. Advani - Launched — India Shining Campaign - Advani Proved Beyond Doubt that He Does Not Understand India & Our (Common Man’s ) Basic Problems Or Don’t Care For Us ! May Be B/c Advani had Come from Pakistan ! INDIA has Given Advani So Much - BUT - What has Advani Given to INDIA ??? Except for the Divisions On Caste/ Communal Lines - Just to Capture Power ! Looking at Entire Political Life of Advani has only Derailed Our Progress & Disturbed Us By Divisive Politics - Which only India’s Enemy Can Do - Are You Pak’s ISI Agent Mr.Advani ??? I’m Not Scared of Pakistan - BUT - Yes I’m Scared of Your Cunning & In-Human Politics ! As Home Minister You Did Nothing Except Beating the Bushes, Protecting Gujarat CM Narendra Modi & Getting Your Name Dropped From Babri Masjid Demolition Case. You are Bane/Burden for India & Appear to Be Mentally Sick ! Advani & BJP as a Whole - Does Not Love INDIA , They Just Use/ Exploit India/ Indians For Personal Ends ! Mr. Advani Plz. Leave India & Go Back to Pakistan and Let We Indians Live In Peace !

Wake up now you non brahmins

If hindu rashtra is achieved by the RSS brahmins. They with the help of BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena will kill the minority communities including all the muslims, christians, buddhist, sikhs, jains and all the lower caste hindus like SC, ST and OBC.

So all the minority communities be prepared for your deaths by the militant RSS brahmins.

If you vote for BJP you will be calling your death. BJP is the puppet of RSS brahmins.

Wake up now you non brahmins.

Do you know that BJP is the puppet of RSS Brahmins. Wherever there is a BJP government their goverment is just a tutorial head. All the government organizations are operated by the RSS brahmins.

See all the BJP state like Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Jharkhand, Bihar(semi rule), Punjab(semi rule).

Even when BJP was in Center i.e NDA see below:

The So Called Leaders of BJP are Basically - Slaves/Orderly/Agents of RSS & Not People of Integrity/ Self Respect - Their Main Job Is to Capture Power - AnyHow & then Serve/Cater the Reins of Govts (Centre/States) - In the Plate of RSS Men - with PM/CMs Becoming Just Rubber Stamps. Actual Power Remains In the Hands of RSS Men/ Orthodox Brahmins. They (RSS Men) give Orders Directly to Local Administrations & Take Major Dicisions. Proof/Example = (i) Extra Constitutional Body, RSS Men Use to See Govt Files at the Official Residence of Former PM A. B. Vajpayee (Clear Case of Breach of Privilage & Oath taken at the Time Becoming PM) & Use to Talk to Press From there.

Wake up you all non brahmins!

Brahmans Have Been Virtually Sodomising the Upper Caste Hindu FooLs Since 2000Yrs.

Brahmans Say:- Kshatriyas/ Rajputs Have Brains in their Knees - Instead Of Heads. Kayasth/Lala-Vaish/Bania Are Cowards, Impotents, 420 (Hindi: Kamjor-Darpoke). Bhumihars Are Bastards, Product of Kepts (Hindi: Dogley). Rest SC-ST-OBC Are Animals, Born Slaves (Hnd: Gandi Naalee Ke Kidey,Gulam). All Muslims Are Pakistan’s ISI Agent. BUT Only Brahmans themselves Are of Purest Race/ Blood of Above All & Living Gods (Hindi: Brahmans Bhagwan Ka Hi Roop Hain.) & Belongs to God’s Family & Only Brahmans Have Right to Rule India. OoPs! Brahmans Also Claim Supriority For Being - Vegetarians By Births, BUT I Have NOT Come Across a SINGLE Person Who Is a Vegetarian by Birth & Is a NICE Person, All Were CROOKS, Don’t Believe JUST Look Around.

Wake up you all non brahmins!

Why Hindu Gods/ Goddesses = Shiva/ Rama/ Krishna/ Durgaa/ Kaali - DID Not Try to End - Brahmins Mafia Rule of Over 3000 Yrs ???

– It’s the Brahmin Priests , Who Decides - As Who Will Enter the Temple. So Hindu Gods are Captive/Hijacked Gods ! Even Hindu Gods Dare Not to Speak Against Powerful Brahmins. OoPs ! Why Only Brahmins Can Become Priests in Temples & Hold Religious Posts ? 2000 Yrs Old Resevation B/c of Money Factor ??? — Plus We all Know that - Non-Brahmin Hindus - Can not Become Priests/Rest - Even If they Want ? So Point Is - then - How Come they are Hindus ???

If the brahmins have the problem with the non brahmin hindus or lower caste hindus why don’t they leave India and go elsewhere wherever they want. They want to force their old brahminical rule on us. They are the real obstacles in India’s development. These people don’t want lower caste hindus to get educated they are feared if they are educated they would stand next to them. Then there will be no one on whom they can dominate their rule.

Do you remember that Kanchi Shankarcharya a Brahmin who was an accused in the murder. The allegations were made by Jaylalita. When he was in jail he refused to eat the food. He said that he will only eat food made by the brahmins. If there were no brahmins Shankarcharya must have died by eating the food made by mon brahmin.

Do you know that there are only 5% brahmin population in India which wants to control the whole hindu society. Unless and until there are brahmins in India there will be no equality in Hindus. If Brahmins are thrown out of the country then only there will be a way for Hindu Rashtra.

Regards.
Ram

We are in 21st century but still there is a practice of untouchables. Do you know that there are many districts in maharashtra where even today low caste hindus called dalits are not allowed to enter the temple to worship the god. This situation is there in every indian state and every distict of india. Even in their own Gujarat State which they called a hindu state also faces the untouchability problem.

If you won’t allow them to enter the temple they are now converting to Christians and some to Muslims. Only upper caste hindus are responsible for this.

Soon the time will come where the hindus will be in minority. This is true hindus are only responsible for their own destruction.

All the lower caste hindus are feared up of this hindu rashtra. Nobody wants this if hindu rashtra is achieved. Naturally all the hindus will throw or murder the lower caste hindus.

So all lower caste hindus beaware of this fact. Because this orthodox Brahmins wants to repeat their history once again.

Regards.
Suraj

Thanks.

The very fact that Ram and Krishna still inspire people all across the nation itself says very much about their personalities. Just because we do not have material historical evidence about their existence, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Every National hero across the world is eulogized. The longer the time duration, the more epithets that get attached to the personality. By your argument, we can afford to have Heroes only a few hundred years old. Heroes should be judged on how they inspire people’s hearts through time and are not anything else.

The Nation-State concept is a reality, even though many liberal intellectuals would want to deny that. Recent examples:
- East Germany and West Germany were two States and one Nation. They had to merge
- China and Tibet are two Nations stuck in one State. Unless Tibet frees itself, the people will never be happy
- Pakistan is a failed state and Bangladesh is getting there. Putting artificial concepts of Nation (2 Nation Theory) into the minds of people to create a new State ultimately fails.

There are many more examples. Globalization does not determine destinies of Nations. You cannot change the Soul of a Nation. It exists in the people’s hearts and asserts itself over and over again.

Shobhit

The Hindu philosophy as you have has a world vision and is not restricted to particular geographic community - in fact that is against the very essence of it. In the past, this philosophy has traveled around the world and has increased its following by its own merits.

Newton’s law of Gravitation is applicable universally, but it is still called Newton’s law because of its origin. This does not restrict its applicability or its significance. Same is true for ‘Hindu’ Dharma. I guess that should resolve your confusion.

Shobhit

Thank you for sharing your ideas. It is a very well written article with a good introduction to the idea of Hindu Rashtra.

You wrote about the 400 year old American identity and talked about the forefathers as national heroes. I would like to mention that America hardly had any national identity before the American Revolution. Each state considered itself its own country and the people’s national identity belonged to various parts of Europe. A New Yorker was more familiar with the English culture than with the Virginian. What George Washington and others gave to Americans was a *state* identity (not a national). By unifying the provinces and declaring independence, the forefathers created this country. Therefore, it’s probably more accurate to describe them as state heroes (instead of national). The American identity evolved post unification and will continue to evolve. In my opinion, national identity is an organic concept which evolves on its own as the demographic and generation of the place and consequently their shared history changes over time.

Now, in the context of India, the heroes of the freedom movement gave her its state identity and they (shivaji being one of them) have been acknowledged as state heroes. However, claiming Rama and Krishna as national heroes of the same rank is a little bit of a stretch. Due to the amount of time passed, there is hardly any unbiased historical evidence of their existence much less to verify their achievements. Further, the epics attach a lot of metaphysical and mystical capabilities to these heroes which further enhances the suspicion that they are more likely symbolic figures or gods (if you prefer). Therefore, it is probably a little unfair to claim Rama and Krishna as non-religious national heroes. I would argue that if you want to talk about ancient heroes, Chandragupta and Asoka are probably better candidates for their verifiable achievements at unifying Bharat.

In my opinion, the idea of a one nation-state can no longer be imposed in today’s world of increased migration and globalization. A truly free society lets the people choose their own heroes individually. An effort to include Rama and Krishna in the Indian history books alongside the freedom fighters will only equate Sangh to the crazy evangelical Christians trying to include creationism in American science textbooks. I hope that doesn’t happen.

Thank you for reading,
Namaste,
rahul

Your article is very concise and well written. However, I would like to add a few things regarding the connotation of the term Hindu in the Sangh terminology.

You have written that “As we can see, the word Hindu has a geographical history and does not mean a religious faith like Islam or Christianity.” We need to understand that this is a stand taken primarily by the Sangh and it is not in resonance with the views of Swami Vivekananda or Sri Aurobindo or for that matter any Hindu spiritual leader. As you say, “The origin of the word ‘Hindu’ is purely geographical.” True, but that does not mean that the culture and the philosophy from which such culture emanates have to be confined to a certain geographical space. On the contrary, even in the times of the Mahabharata the Vedic influence (i.e. the Hindu culture) was spread far and wide. The countries of South East Asia such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia and Myanmar in the recent times and to some extent, even now, have been predominantly Hindu by culture. But by the given definition, we cannot call the cultures of such places ‘Hindu’, can we?

I feel that the basic flaw lies in the understanding of the Hindu Dharma (or Sanatana Dharma, to be more precise) or rather in our area of focus. The Hindu Dharma is nothing but the Sanatana Dharma which has come to acquire this new name due to some historical reasons and to attach too much importance on the etymology of the word ‘Hindu’ is purely unnecessary.
In fact, understanding the Hindu culture requires primarily the understanding of its spiritual essence which clearly shows how universal it is. Its rituals, its customs, its policies (social, political, economic, etc.) are all revolved around that essence which our Seers have realized and is meant to be realized by us (i.e. every being) as well. To confine this Hindu/Sanatana Dharma to a geographical territory would, therefore, be a great disservice to Hindu Dharma itself.

If you disconnect yourself from this way of life you loose your contact with the Nation. In the modern Indian state, all the secessionist and anti national movements are rising from areas where people have moved away from this way of life i.e. North East, Kerala, Kashmir etc.

As I have mentioned in the article, Hindu Rashtra is not an idea of RSS. It has been put forward by every Nationalist thinker since time in memorial.

Unfortunately, you missed the point of the article completely. The idea of RSS is to motivate the country to rise about religious interests and collectively work for the National interest. You are welcome to join it.

Shobhit